GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276. Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Senin, 27 Desember 2010
BUILDING RIGHT
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GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
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Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
1 Corinthians 3:9-15 (NKJV) 9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
Dear Friends, The foundation of the church [of all believers] is Jesus Christ and this is the foundation Paul laid when he began the church at the city of Corinth. Whoever builds on the foundation [teachers, preachers, parents and others] –must build with high quality materials [12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones...] that match God’s standard [teaching in line with God’s Word and a living as taught by Christ Jesus].
Those who build the church [building together with Jesus using His blueprint] have a great responsibility to teach the Truth [without any mixture].
Church Leaders have a responsibility to build right. Church Leaders; do not wait for the day of testing to find out what you have built is gone in "Fire". We, Church Leaders need to see that our life is built upon the Word of God and the people who are entrusted to us are built upon the Word of God.
There should be NO Corruption.
There should be NO Mixture.
There should be NO Mixture of the ways of the World and Word of God.
When you cross a horse and a donkey what do we get?
A Mule -Mules can never reproduce themselves.
There is barrenness in the church because of a mixture.
With Love
Christopher.K
21/11/2010
Jumat, 17 Desember 2010
GIVE UNTO THE LORD THE GLORY DUE TO HIS NAME
Psalm 29:2 (NKJV) Give unto the Lord the glory due to His name; Worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness.
Dear friends [ Dave, Yusak, Ben ...] and leaders in Indonesia, greetings in Jesus Name. Again I say to you that we are entering into a very very dangerous time and very very exciting time.
Hebrews 12:26 (NKJV) 26 whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, "Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven."
God is going to shake everything and I mean EVERYTHING. Already you can see and hear the shaking. Therefore I urge you to WORSHIP.
As we approach 2011 gather our people together and lead them to worship HIM without any agenda. Worship HIM with songs of love, praises, thanksgiving and adoration. Listen to HIM. And Obey HIM.
Those who worship HIM will be secure. Those who worship HIM will STAND during the shaking.
Fast and Pray and hunger for the Lord our God and go further in doing the acceptable fast of the LORD.
Isaiah 58:3-6 (NKJV)‘Why have we fasted,’ they say, ‘and You have not seen?
Why have we afflicted our souls, and You take no notice?’ "In fact, in the day of your fast you find pleasure, And exploit all your laborers. 4 Indeed you fast for strife and debate, And to strike with the fist of wickedness. You will not fast as you do this day, To make your voice heard on high. 5 Is it a fast that I have chosen, A day for a man to afflict his soul? Is it to bow down his head like a bulrush, And to spread out sackcloth and ashes? Would you call this a fast, And an acceptable day to the Lord? 6 "Is this not the fast that I have chosen: To loose the bonds of wickedness, To undo the heavy burdens, To let the oppressed go free, And that you break every yoke?
Remember
Isaiah 61:1-2 (NKJV) "The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord,
And the day of vengeance of our God; To comfort all who mourn,
My friends, the Spirit of God is upon you [the same Spirit who was upon Jesus is upon you] because HE has anointed you to do HIS WORK. Therefore encourage each other in the LORD Jesus and stir them up and urge them to WORSHIP the LORD and SERVE the LORD with gladness of heart.
Love you and miss everyone of you very much.
christopher and vijaya.k
Senin, 06 Desember 2010
First Century Christians (vs) Present day Christians.
First Century Christians (vs) Present day Christians.
by Prason Christopher Robin on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 at 4:10pm
Originally written in Tamil by Brother Vijay(http://vijay76.wordpress.com/)
I have written 14 great accomplishments made by present day Christians. These 14 achievement of us will prove to the world that we are better and knowledgable than the first century Christians.
1. The fact that Jesus was born on 25th december was not known to the first centuy Christians. It was not even known to Mary- the earthly mother of Jesus. They were under the assumpton that 25th December was the birthday of the Roman SUN GOD. They knew only about the Cross -Tree; The did not know about the X-mas Tree. It is also a sad reality that they had no idea about the Great Man of God - Santa Claus.
2. We know that we have to worsip the Lord in a church on a Sunday. But the early Christians did not know this truth and hence they were worsipping the Lord everyday. (Acts 2:46,47). Only the fourth Century Christians realised that they had to worship every sunday when this rule came into effect after a great group discussion in Heaven.
3. The first century Christians respected Mary - The mother of Jesus. But they were blind to the Truth that she was ought to be worshipped.
4. The first century Christians did not have a clue about the great discovery of the 20th century "Word of Faith Movement". They were idiots who never had Faith. If they had exercised their Faith by making Faith proclamations, they would have never gone through sufferings. The Lions would not have eaten them. They also never knew that they could download the Righteousness of God into them by repeating the words "I am righteous in Christ Jesus". If only they had known that they could "Prophesy Prosperity" they would have been richer than Bill Gates. They were blind jokers who were blind to the revelation that we have now.
5. God has changed his mind and he now lives in temples made of stones also. The early Christians thought that they were the body of Christ. The Apostles were the Church. They gathered together as the church. But they did not know that God hated that format of worship. They did not know that God lives in Big Churces where the Pastor doesn't even know 90 % of the members in the congregation.These truths were revealed to Chrstians after the 4th century AD.
6. The first century Christians thought that Baptism was to die and be buried with Christ to receive redemption for the sins. Only those who acknowledged their sins took batism. But after the 4th century, even new born babies started acknowledging that they were sinners and they were specially designed by God with a super brain.
7. Early Christians were under the assumption that the rituals of the Old covenant were abolished and replaced by the New covenant principles. But the TITHE of the Old Covenant has not been abolished according to the present day Christians.In the Old covenant, the Tithe food was to be stored in the store house. But the present day store house is the Bank account of the preacher. The first century Christians did not know this Truth.
8. The first centuy Christians were dumb to assume that a gathering of saints was building the spiritual bond among them and God.They were even foolish to consider themselves as different parts of the same Body of Christ. But the present day Christians have understood the real meaning of gathering of saints. The real meaning of gathering of saints is conducting spiitual meetings where evryone can jump in joy, roll around and laugh. After the meeting is over, we could go back to our worldly lives. This truth was not known to the first century christians.
9. The first centuy Chrisians had a wrong belief, that they were worshipping and pleasing God by offering their bodies as living sacrifices. But we know the real meaning of spiritual worship. Our Holy Spirt will get acivated when the bassist plays tap bass,the guitarist plays lead progressions with distortion and when the drummer packs a punch with his rolls. Very similar to Software updates, We have also updated our worship to new versions called soaking prayer, Prophetic worship, apostolic worship , rolling on the floor laughing (ROFL). The first centuy Christians might quote Romans 12: 1 and say that our worship is wrong. Let them say that, because they were beaten and bruised when they worshipped God according to Romans 12:1. But we get joy and happiness and we get drunk in the spirit when we worship God. Even Gold powder falls on us when we worship.Which worship is better? You decide!
10. The first century Christians preached a lousy Gospel and became enemies to many. By doing so, they thought that they were following God. But we use the same Gospel message and preach in such a manner that no one gets hurt. By using our brains, we preach a gospel through which we gain many friends. The early Christians lived in a small world and they went through a narrow gate. But the gate we enter through is Broad just like our mind. They thought that Gospel is about making disciples. But we know Gospel is about the number of people who get converted. Why care about quality when we have quantity?
11. The early Christians had three enemies ( World, Flesh, Satan). But we have only one enemy (Satan). We bind him, make him to dance like MJ; and we even tie him and throw him in Hell and burn him with Fire. What is this World and Flesh? The frst century Christians complicated things. The only world that we know is the rotating globe that we have in our home. Talking about flesh, we recommend everyone to eat the chicken breasts from KFC.
12. The early christians thought that a prophet is one who Edifies the Church by standing in the gap, as a gatekeeper and as a watchman. But we know that a prophet is one who places his hands on our heads to predict our future.
13. In the Old Covenant, there was a dfference between High Priest and the people. This system was referred to as the clergy-laity system.The first century christians thought that Jesus abolished this system on the cross (when the Veil Tore). They considered themselves to be brothers and servants for one another. Even the shepherds and elders were one among them. But we proved them wrong by the 4th century AD when we brought back the Cergy-Laity system to practise.
14. Above all,the crowning glory of our finding is our discovery that we could love the world and God at the same time. We have given a new meaning to Chrstendom with our discovery. The first century Christians never knew this truth.They loved only God and hated the world and because of that had a miserable life.
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Jumat, 03 Desember 2010
PARTNERING 5 FOLD MINISTERS IN MARKET PLACE
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House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Partnering 5 fold Ministers in Marketplace Ministry
Ephesians 4:11-16 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
1 Peter 5:1-4 (NKJV) The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed: 2 Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; 3 nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock; 4 and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away.
I believe it is time we recognize [not in the sense of giving them name tags or titles] the 5 fold ministers and receive their ministry by giving them the freedom to function in the marketplace. In the past either they are not recognized or if they are recognized they are controlled by one ministry in the context of the established church.
1] Fivefold ministers need to follow the example of Jesus –most of the time Jesus was found in the marketplace moving from city to city and village to village teaching and preaching and healing and delivering people.
Matthew 9:35-38 (NKJV) 35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. 36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”
2] Fivefold ministers need to do the discipling as they go out doing their business.
A] Discipling begins before a person commits his or her life to Jesus.
B] We disciple a community until they become a community of Christ and continue and mature in Christ Jesus.
Matthew 28:18-20 (NKJV) 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
A] They have the authority to baptize.
B] They have the authority to teach and train their community in the marketplace.
3] Fivefold ministers must shepherd their community [marketplace]. [Check out the analogy God used in the OT and Jesus used in the NT]. How shepherds lead and care for their flock?
4] Fivefold ministers must serve as overseers [Bishop] over their community [marketplace].
This is the same word used for a foreman [who oversees] working in a construction site. What does this means?
A] Fivefold minister as overseer sees to it that his community is build according to the blue print of God.
B] Fivefold minister as overseer sees that there is no laziness among the community [sees that all are functioning in the marketplace –doing their God given task with compassion and excellence ]
C] Fivefold minister as overseer sees that there is no mixture [a mixture of the world and the Word / corruption]
Please pray for this to be a reality.
In His Majesty’s Service
Christopher.k
2/12/2010
Jumat, 26 November 2010
A QUESTION TO THINK
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Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Dear Friends,
I have a question for you to think.
I wonder how many of the 21st century churches will invite Jesus to their Church Growth Conferences or even to the local church pulpits?
The Jesus we celebrate today; if He is here like two thousand years ago [flesh and blood] walking among us and ministering among us; Will we, pastors of local churches invite Him to speak. Will we invite Him to be our Church Growth Conference speaker?
John 6:66 (NKJV) 66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.
Many of Jesus' disciples could not accept Jesus' teaching and they left Him. This will not be accepted as successful ministry.
John 7:5 (NKJV) 5 For even His brothers did not believe in Him.
Jesus’ own brothers did not believe in Jesus. His own family members could not accept Jesus’ ministry. His healing and deliverance ministry is accepted but His teaching is not accepted.
John 8:52 (NKJV) 52 Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’
Matthew 12:24 (NKJV) 24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
His own people including the pastors felt He had a demon in HIM and that He casts out demons by the power of Satan.
Matthew 21:23 (NKJV) 23 Now when He came into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people confronted Him as He was teaching, and said, “By what authority are You doing these things? And who gave You this authority?”
The senior pastor and his pastoral team questioned Jesus' authority.
Matthew 21:42 (NKJV) 42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone. This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’?
The MOST important stone for building a building was rejected and the whole building is going to collapse.
Luke 10:16 (NKJV) 16 He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Those who reject the true messengers reject God.
Friends if the local churches every where does not honor and receive Jesus and His sent ones then everything they are building is going to collapse. It is not just saying words like “Jesus is Lord of this Church” “Jesus is Lord”. It is not the “right talk” but going further than that and “walk the talk”. Today there are many politicians who are saying all the right things but when it comes to action...
We cannot blame the world because they do not have the truth but the Church and Church leaders have the truth. They are without excuse. The Church not only needs to speak the truth but also live the truth. Many in the Church love lies more than truth and they are putting themselves under bondage again. They protect their pulpits from God and His sent ones. They protect their church from God with their policies, traditions and themes.
I believe today’s churches will welcome with open hands ministers like Jonah [give him 5 star treatment] who has proven ministry [successful ministry]. Through Jonah’s ministry a whole city repented.
But off course you know Jonah and his heart condition. Well that really does not matter as long as the attendance in our church services increases –that’s all matters.
Friends, let us receive the true messengers of God and the truth that they bring. Then the Church will be set free from lies and will be protected from deception.
Blessings
Christopher.K
9/11/2010
Sabtu, 06 November 2010
Perfectly Weak
Perfectly Weak
by Francis Frangipane
According to the Scriptures, Moses was "educated in all the learning of the Egyptians." Indeed, as a prince in Egypt, Moses had grown to be a "man of power in words and deeds" (Acts 7:22). Thus, it is hard to equate this eloquent and cultured man with the stammering shepherd who, at 80 years old, was overwhelmed with his inadequacies, so much so that he pleaded with God to choose someone else.
Consider: The Lord took a self-assured world leader and reduced his opinion of himself until he possessed no confidence. And it was in this state of mind that God decided to use him. Having been thoroughly convinced of his unfitness for leadership, Moses was now qualified to lead.
Remarkably, the Lord would ultimately reveal Himself to Moses (and all Israel as well) as Jehovah-Rapha: "I am the Lord that healeth thee." Yes, God is our healer, yet there are times when God's hands wound before they heal. Indeed, He must cripple our self-confidence before we truly become God-confident. He breaks and drains us of pride so that we, who were once full of self, might instead be filled with God.
The Lord called Moses to return to Egypt as His spokesman. In response Moses pleaded, "Please, Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither recently nor in time past, nor since You have spoken to Your servant; for I am slow of speech and slow of tongue" (Ex. 4:10).
Never been eloquent? What about Egypt? "Moses the Eloquent" has become "Moses the Stammerer." The identity of a sophisticated leader, a prince who knew the highest tiers of Egyptian culture, no longer functions in Moses. God has so humbled His servant that he cannot even remember his days of powerful words and mighty deeds. Moses has only one memory of Egypt: failure.
For Moses, the very mention of the word Egypt floods his mind with weakness; Moses fears returning to the place of his humiliation, especially as a leader. Yet, God has not called him to be a leader, but a servant. And, to be a servant, one need not be eloquent, but obedient.
It Was God's Idea
Moses is sure his particular weakness, stammering, will disqualify him. How can a man who cannot speak clearly speak for God? Yet, not only is the Lord unhindered by human weakness, He asks, "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?" (Ex. 4:11). Amazingly, the Lord not only accommodates Moses' condition, He takes credit for it!
It is a profound thought: God stripped Moses of his worldly place and training, burdened him with a heavy and slow tongue, and then commanded him to serve Him in this specific area of weakness: speaking!
The Lord could have instantly healed Moses! He could have given him oratorical skills greater than what he possessed in Egypt, but He did nothing to cure Moses. In fact, the slow speech is God's idea!
Perhaps we have spent too much time blaming the devil for certain limitations that actually have their origins in God. Yet, what truly matters with the Almighty is not the eloquence of our words, but His power to fulfill them. It's a fitting combination: stammering words backed up with immutable power. "I...will be with your mouth" (Ex. 4:12). This is the alliance that makes for victory.
Why is the Lord so attracted to the lowly? He knows the weaker His servant, the more genuinely he will praise God for the work He accomplishes.
So the Lord kept Moses weak, and He maintained His servant’s sense of dependancy throughout the wilderness sojourning. Forget Charlton Heston’s portrayal of Moses with perfect articulation, there is no record of God having healed Moses’ stammer. Standing before the regalia of Pharaoh's court, Moses spoke with the same stammering tongue that began to afflict him in his old age. Later, at the Red Sea, when the horses and chariots of Pharaoh's army cornered the fleeing Hebrews, Moses lifted his voice and, with struggling lips, proclaimed, "Sta-sta-stand st-still a-a-and see th-the s-s-salvation of the L-L-Lord!"
Who would not be tempted to plead, "Hurry Lord; heal his stutter!" Yet, the Red Sea parted. God was never troubled by His servant's flawed oratory skills.
This is the glory of the cross: self is crucified so that Christ may be revealed in power.
The fact is, the Lord deliberately seeks those who know their flaws. Paul testifies that "God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong. . .the things that are not, that He might nullify the things that are, so that no man may boast before God" (1 Cor. 1:27-29).
"That no man may boast before God." May the revelation of God liberate us from human vanity. The truth of God is this: Our weaknesses are an asset. God has chosen us, not because of our strength, but because we are weak. I am not talking about our sinfulness, but that our weaknesses and lack of pedigree do not disqualify us from being used by God.
I am not saying we shouldn’t seek God to heal our weaknesses, let us pray and believe Him! But let us also not excuse ourselves from God's calling because of our weakness. You see, before the Almighty, we each are nothing, and we can do nothing of lasting value apart from Him. It is in our lowliness that God's glory rises to its greatest heights.
Perhaps your last place of service to the Lord seemed to be a complete failure. Yet, it is possible that the Lord has simply been making you perfectly weak, that He might manifest Himself perfectly strong within you
Rabu, 03 November 2010
Money and Ministry
Money and Ministry
by Asher Intrate
The relationship between money and ministry is very sensitive. Let's look at a few issues:
Lordship
We never do anything in the ministry for the sake of getting money. Yeshua said, "You cannot serve God and Mammon" – Matthew 6:24. Of course we need money for the work of the Lord, and God knows that. He will provide. We are never to worry (Matthew 6:25). Yet the motives we have for serving the Lord are not to make a profit.
Not Merchandising
Therefore we are not to treat the word of God and the anointing of the Holy Spirit as a product to be marketed. It is not merchandise. "We are not like many who make commerce of the word of God" – II Corinthians 2:17. We are to be good stewards and act as responsible business professionals in the manner of our work, yet we are not to see the power of God as something to be sold. "Your money perish with you, for you thought to buy the gift of God with money" – Acts 8:20. The subtle ability to manipulate manifestations of God's grace as a trick to bring in donations is evil at its root (I Timothy 6:10).
Faith to Give
As we grow in faith, God teaches us to trust Him to be able to give more and more to help others. Yeshua purposely placed His disciples in a test. There were 5,000 men, in addition to women and children, in attendance. The people needed food. Yeshua said to His disciples, "You give them to eat" – Matthew 14:16. God demanded of them to change their identity from a taker to a giver, from being a needy person to being a supplier of needs. There is supernatural provision in faith.
Recently I felt God limiting my faith to be able to provide for the needs of our ministry. He wanted our staff and team members to grow in faith. After prayer, I told them, "Now you will begin to have faith to give and provide." This is part of discipleship. As we learn to give, God will provide. After the disciples fed the 5,000, Yeshua told them to gather all the crumbs. There were 12 baskets left over – enough for one basket to each disciple. God's economy is lavish in giving, yet frugal in expenses.
Paying Taxes
Paying taxes to the government is very costly and sometimes seems to be a waste of God's money. However, we are instructed to pay taxes as part of our faith in God (Romans 13:6). The tax services are not bothered by the fact that a person receives a lot of money. Quite the contrary – they just want their percentage of the income.
Yeshua instructed Peter to receive a supernatural supply of money to pay the religious tax on the Temple by taking money out of a fish's mouth (Matthew 17:27). He also instructed all the people to pay the secular tax to the government. "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's; and unto God what is God's" – Matthew 22:21. We have to distinguish between God and Caesar. Those who have money are not necessarily more spiritual. On the other hand, we can't over-spiritualize money. We have to pay bills; and we have to pay taxes. The rabbis have an expression, "Without bread (flour), there is no Torah; and without Torah, there is no bread" – Pirke Avot 3.
Keeping Records
There were moments in history of revival and abundance, where keeping records of every expense was not necessary (II Kings 22:7). However in our world today, there is much suspicion and much financial pressure. We have to be diligent in keeping records correctly. The process of keeping records is what demonstrates integrity. "That no one should blame us in these great donations, which are administered by us. We have determined to act with integrity, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men" - II Corinthians 8:20-21. We purpose to show our morality, not just before God, but also toward men.
Don't Be Offended
One of the reasons that Judas betrayed Yeshua was that he saw Miriam of Bethany pour expensive perfume on Yeshua. He thought it was wasteful. He was offended (and was also stealing money himself). This offense triggered his betrayal (Matthew 26:14). Don't let yourself fall into the same trap.
Don't Compare
Comparing salaries and benefits can cause jealousy and anger. "Why does that person receive more than I do? I work harder than he does." Yeshua addressed this issue in the parable of the hired workers. Some worked longer hours. They expected more money. They were offended that they did not receive more. Yeshua answered, "Friend, I did not wrong you. Did you not agree to work for one denarius? Do I not have the right to do with my own money what I want? Are you envious because I am generous?" – Matthew 20:13, 15. The attitude that "I deserve this" is not appropriate when employed in service to the Lord. What we have is by His grace. One aspect of repentance is to be satisfied with one's earnings (Luke 3:14).
Wealth of the Nations
There are amazing promises of prosperity in the Bible. There are even prophecies that the "wealth of the nations" will come to us (Isaiah 60:5; 60:9; 60:11; 60:16; 61:6; Zechariah 14:14). Why would God want to bring us the wealth of the nations? It is not for us to live in luxury. The wealth of the nations will come to us in order to bring the gospel to the nations. Our motivation is not to GET the wealth of the nations, but to USE it. We desire not to take money from them but to give salvation to them. We need to enlarge our faith for giving, our faith for receiving, and our faith for the kingdom of God.
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GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Dear Friends, How are you doing? It would be good if you write and do let me know so that we can pray together, encourage each other in the Lord, rejoice together or even shed tears together in HIM.
As I wrote to you in the last mail about setting aside Oct to Dec 2010 for blessing Malaysia. It looks like there were no new doors opening up yet therefore we have taken it as God has give us rest except for commitments to speak on
The Book of Zechariah at the Marketplace Bible Forum on Saturday, 27th November, 2010 from 3.00 pm to 6.00 pm and
To speak in Trinity Bible Church –Penang on 28th November 2010 at 10.30am.
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SAT,13th NOV@ Pearl Hill Villa.
Meet at 24, Puncak Bukit Mutiara 1
Hillside, Tg Bunga (map available)
Assemble by 5.00 pm
1. Start with Fitness Tips & Warm Up with Pr Christopher K
2. Fun Hunt as You Walk/Run/Cycle Round Pearl Hill
(Shower Facilities Available Afterwards)
3. BBQ & Sing Along
Alternative activities include exploring Abraham’s Cave, Wild Veg & Fish Farm & Guinea Pig Colony.
What is happening?
1] PAV1215 Nissan Sunny [our car for the last 9 years] is now more than 27 years old].
It is in good condition [except for some parts showing that it cannot move on any more].
It has travelled to the North [Phuket –South Thailand] and the South [to Johore Bahru] and East [Kuala Terengganu] and the West [Lumut]. It has been faithfully carrying us to our various destinations for ministry. For the last 2 years I am having problem to get insurance for my car [Malaysia is getting rid of old cars (25 years and above)]. This year as usual I had problem even getting comprehensive coverage [to pay more like a new car]. But Praise be to God -1 insurance company had a “corner” for my car. So we can use it for another year if our car is willing to move.
You know what to pray for my friends.
2] Zoe Ministries. We thank God for Air Itam Baptist Church and 1 family that has been supporting us faithfully for a few years. We also thank God for those who have from time to time supported us financially. We need more help to fulfil what God has called us to do. We have been travelling and ministering in Malaysia and beyond the shores of Malaysia and we are willing to continue to do it until the day God calls us home. The Need is local churches and individuals who would stand alongside with us and send us to the nations with their prayers and substance. It looks like we have been side lined, ignored and rejected by many. If this is so I desire to know where we have gone wrong so that we can be corrected. Or is it because we are doing the right thing that we face opposition.
Romans 10:15 (NKJV) 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
You know what to pray for my friends.
As I am preparing to teach on the book of Zechariah –I am reminded that God remembers. [That’s what it means: Zechariah means God remembers] He remembers His promise to me. He will keep His Promise.
Love to hear from you.
Pray for us as we prepare ourselves for the next “chapter”.
Friends, we are a faith ministry and when you are lead by God to give towards our living and ministry, please direct it to
KRISHNASAMY A/L RAMASAMY
I/C Number -540303-07-5307
May Bank account number : 107125195025
Home Branch number 07125 -KAMPONG BHARU
Swift Code: MBBEMYKL
Or
KASIKORNBANK
Account number: 548-2-01969-4
Become a blessing to the nations by sending us to the nations to disciple the nations.
In His Majesty’s Service
Christopher and Vijaya.K
27/10/2010
Rabu, 29 September 2010
The Gospel of Grace or Gospel of Radical Grace
The Gospel of Grace or Gospel of Radical Grace
In view of the unfolding events in the church, it is important for us to explain the issues surrounding the so called Gospel of Grace or Radical Grace as taught by Joseph Prince, New Creation Church , Singapore .
The Gospel of Grace is a stream of teaching that was already present during the early church, called antinomianism (anti-“nomos” or law) then, which is the exact opposite of legalism. Antinomianism is the extreme end of being “under grace and free from law” which resulted in many problems in the early church (Jude, Galatians, Romans etc).
In a nutshell, since we have been justified in Christ by faith alone through grace which is a gift of God; Law has no place or worth in a believer’s life; because we cannot earn salvation through it. Therefore, obedience is not a necessary part of Christian salvation. There are dangers associated with this type of teaching. Those propagating the Gospel of Grace will deny they are antinomianist. It would be wise to evaluate their teachings based on the observations below.
J.I. Packer in his book “Concise Theology” (1993) identified the following types of antinomianism:
1. Dualistic Antinomianism
“Dualistic antinomianism appears in the Gnostic heretics against whom Jude and Peter wrote (Jude 4-19; 2 Peter 2). This view sees salvation as for the soul only, and bodily behavior as irrelevant both to God’s interest and to the soul’s health, so one may behave riotously and it will not matter.”
2. Spirit-Centered Antinomianism
“Spirit-centered antinomianism outs such trust in the Holy Spirit’s inward prompting as to deny any need to be taught by the law how to live. Freedom from the law as a way of salvation is assumed to bring with it freedom from the law as a guide to conduct. In the first 150 years of the Reformation era this kind of antinomianism often threatened the church, and Paul’s insistence that a truly spiritual person acknowledges the authority of God’s Word through Christ’s apostles (1 Cor. 14:37; cf. 7:40) suggests that the Spirit-obsessed Corinthian church was in the grip of the same mind set.”
3. Christ-Centered Antinomianism
“Christ-centered antinomianism argues that God sees no sin in believers, because they are in Christ, who kept the law for them, and therefore their actions make no difference, providing that they keep believing. But 1 John 1:8-2:1 (expounding 1:7) and 3:4-10 point in a different direction, showing that it is not possible to be in Christ and at the same time to embrace a sinful way of life.”
4. Dispensational Antinomianism
“Dispensational antinomianism holds that keeping the moral law is at no stage necessary for Christians, since we live under a dispensation of grace, not of law. Romans 3:31 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 clearly show, however, that law keeping is a continuing obligation for Christians. “I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law,” says Paul (1 Cor. 9:21).”
5. Situationist Antinomianism
“Situationist antinomianism says that a motive and intention of love is all that God now requires of Christians, and the commands of the Decalogue (10 Commandments) and other ethical parts of Scripture, for all that they are ascribed to God directly, are mere rules of thumb for loving, and may at anytime be disregarded. But Romans 13:8-10, to which this view appeals, teaches that without love as a motive these specific commands cannot be fulfilled. Once more an unacceptably weak view of Scripture surfaces.”
These classifications may not be so distinctive as they overlap each other.
Daniel Steele, more than two centuries ago in his writing “A SUBSTITUTE FOR HOLINESS OR ANTINOMIANISM REVIVED – THE THEOLOGY OF THE SO-CALLED PLYMOUTH BRETHREN EXAMINED AND REFUTED “ defined the creed of an antinomian as follows:
“I was justified when Christ died, and my faith is simply a waking up to the fact that I have always been saved – a realization of what was done before I had any being; that a believer is not bound to mourn for sin, because it was pardoned before it was committed, and pardoned sin is no sin; that God does not see sin in believers, however great sins they commit; that by God's laying our iniquities upon Christ, He became as completely sinful as I, and I as completely righteous as Christ. More over, I believe that no sin can do a believer any ultimate harm, although it may temporarily interrupt communion with God. I must not do any duty for my own salvation. This is included in the new covenant, which is all of it a promise, having no condition on my part. It is a paid up, non-forfeitable, eternal-life insurance policy. Since the new covenant is not properly made with us, but with Christ for us, the conditions, repentance, faith, and obedience, are not on our side, but on Christ's side, who repented, believed, and obeyed, in such a way to relieve us from these unpleasant acts. Hence it is folly to search for inward marks of grace, and it is a fundamental error to make sanctification an indispensable evidence of justification – an error which dampens the joys of him who takes Christ for his sanctification, and plunges him into needless alarms and distresses."
The NCC’s Gospel of Grace teaching is very similar to the above. Our concerns are:
I was justified when Christ died, and my faith is simply a waking up to the fact that I have always been saved – a realization of what was done before I had any being; that a believer is not bound to mourn for sin, because it was pardoned before it was committed, and pardoned sin is no sin; that God does not see sin in believers, however great sins they commit; that by God's laying our iniquities upon Christ, He became as completely sinful as I, and I as completely righteous as Christ. Moreover, I believe that no sin can do a believer any ultimate harm, although it may temporarily interrupt communion with God. The implications:
1. Strong emphasis on the completed work of Christ Jesus on the Cross. Selectively focused on the positional or “forensics” aspects of God’s justification and sanctification in a believer’s life through the cross as an end by itself. Orthodox Christianity sees “justification and sanctification” as a means to an end that requires obedience living in Christ.
2. God does not see sin in believers. He only sees us as His beloved, forgiven and favoured children of God because Christ already paid the horrible price for sin on the Cross. We have become the righteousness of Christ. An incomplete view and emphasis on the teaching of “imputed righteousness” and “counted as righteous”.
3. Christ has forgiven our sins, past present and future. Believers are not bound to confess or mourn for their sins because it has been pardoned. To do so is devalue the work of justification by faith. Such teachings can result in a presumptuous and dull/low view about sin that is still in our lives even as Christians. There is no emphasis for believers to live correctly and actively allow the Holy Spirit to deal with sins. Jesus teaches us the need to actively deal with sins in our lives… If your eyes, hands cause you to sin, pluck it out, cut it off. (Matthew)
4. God’s anger/wrath is only towards non-believers. We believe that God can still be angry with His people and does discipline believers to bring us back to him.
Salvation is a gift of God by grace through faith alone. It is all of it a promise, having no condition on my part. It is a paid up, non-forfeitable, eternal-life insurance policy. The implications:
1. We must focus on the “indicatives” i.e. what Christ has done for us and the benefits/blessings. Let’s stress on the positives continuously.
2. We just need to believe and accept (that is main point) and it is done by faith.
3. We live under grace and not under Law. We should not focus on preaching the “imperatives” (how we should live i.e. the outworking). The more extreme Gospel of Grace will view this as preaching the law and trying to earn salvation. We believe there should be a healthy balance between “indicatives” and “imperatives”. The imperatives must be founded on the indicatives. Christians need to understand the finished work of Christ and respond in obedience to Him.
4. While there is eternal security in God’s promise and work of salvation, it is also man’s responsibility to co-operate and allow the power of the Holy Spirit to help us to live our lives intentionally, purposefully and to show the evidences of grace through obedience and good works in Christ. We would call into question salvation in the first place if there is no evidence of fruits of salvation.
Since the new covenant is not properly made with us, but with Christ for us, the conditions, repentance, faith, and obedience, are not on our side, but on Christ's side, who repented, believed, and obeyed, in such a way to relieve us from these unpleasant acts. The implications:
1. Effortless faith or easy believerism. We are now the recipients of the completed work which is your God-given right. We quote: “Accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour will not only save you from sin and hell, but also give to you health, joy, peace, love, hope, unconditional acceptance, favour, the power to get wealth, all good things you can think of and more.” NCC-website
2. There is no need to talk about obedience, sacrifice, suffering and cost of discipleship because Christ has already suffered these. We just need to claim and receive the blessings that flows from the finished work of the cross – termed as “divine exchange.” We agree and acknowledge the finished work of the Cross but are concerned about emphasis on the blessings minus the commitment of believers.
3. It is alright to live in the excesses of our lives without feeling guilty about it. Where is the teaching about Christian virtues like contentment, simplicity, moderation and thankfulness?
4. The blessings that are ours to claim include “health, power to get wealth and all good things you can think and more.” It is our “birthright”. All over the world, there are Christians who still live in poverty, in persecution because of their faith and yet are able to witness and give thanks in all circumstances. Their birthright is hope in Christ Jesus.
5. Healing through the Holy Communion. The Holy Communion is a sacrament for us to commemorate what Christ has done for us. We are to do it in remembrance of Christ. We believe that God can heal even at Communion but the sacraments are not to be considered the means for healing. Imagine the communion stewards, talking back home the excess sacraments (bread and wine) in plastic bags to be partaken regularly to claim healing!
6. Propensity to divide Scripture into the New Covenant and Old Covenant. It is unscriptural to claim that some teachings of Jesus does not apply in the new covenant because he was addressing the Jews (therefore, does not apply) and before the cross because the new covenant only came into effect through his death and resurrection on the Cross. All Scripture is God breathed and profitable for teaching, rebuking, correction and training in righteousness, that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Hence it is folly to search for inward marks of grace, and it is a fundamental error to make sanctification an indispensable evidence of justification – an error which dampens the joys of him who takes Christ for his sanctification, and plunges him into needless alarms and distresses. The implication:
1. Justification and Sanctification are understood as definitive events. Legally, we are justified and sanctified because Christ paid the cost on the Cross. To interpret this as an end itself is incomplete. We believe this is not the end but it is a means for us to walk in obedience with Christ through the continuous transformation work of Holy Spirit resulting in progressive sanctification and to be more like Him.
2. To teach or preach about obedient living will only burden the believer. They believe if you know Christ, you will live right. 2 Tim 3:16 implores us to teach, rebuke, correct and train through the Word of God.
Eisegesis vs Exegesis
We also have reservations about the tendency of Joseph Prince to read his theology into the text. Eisegesis is the approach in Bible interpretation where the interpreter tries to "force" the Bible to mean something that fits his existing belief or understanding of a particular issue or doctrine. People who interpret the Bible this way are usually not willing to let the Bible speak for itself and let the chips fall where they may. They start off with the up-front goal of trying to prove a point they already believe in, and everything they read and interpret is filtered through that paradigm. The exegetical process takes place in the workshop, the warehouse. Exegesis is a process in private, a perspiring task in which the Bible student examines the backgrounds, meanings, and forms of words; studies the structure and parts of sentences; seeks to ascertain the original textual reading (textual criticism) etc. ... In the privacy of his study, the exegete seeks to comprehend the exact meaning of the Bible passage being studied." Roy B. Zuck's book titled Basic Bible Interpretation.) "
Some teachings from JP that requires closer scrutiny:
1. 1 John 1: 9 does not apply to Christians because it is written to Gentile non-believers (agnostics). If we do a proper exegesis on this epistle, it was written to believers. All epistles in the NT are for believers (corporately or individually, never to unbelievers). John was addressing the proto-Gnostics false teachings amongst believers in the church that claims ('if we, v8) they have no sin. JP’s teaching: Christ has forgiven your sins – past, present and future. Therefore, the teaching that Christians do not need to confess and repent from sins still present is not scriptural.
2. 2 Tim 2:15 - "rightly dividing the word of truth" has come to be understood as dividing the OLD Covenant (law) from NEW Covenant (grace). There is no hint that Paul is talking about Old and New Covenant in this passage. Rather, Paul reminds Timothy to know the Word and handle it with great care (divide = to cut straight, careful and great care) and refers to specific examples, Hymaenus and Philetus who taught there is no resurrection (v17) i.e. wrong teachings. Such teaching is like gangrene and caused many to fall. There is no basis that Paul is asking Timothy to divide the word based on NEW and OLD Covenant. This is just to justify his contention about "grace and law".
3. JP claims that “some of the words which Jesus spoke in the four gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) are part of the old covenant. They were spoken before the cross as He had not yet died. The new covenant only begins after the cross, when the Holy Spirit was given on the day of Pentecost… Some of what Jesus said before the cross and what He said after the cross were spoken under completely different covenants." (Destined to Reign, p.92) The Lord’s prayer in Matt 6 and Luke 11 where Jesus taught his disciples to pray; “forgive us our sins ...” Should we not pray likewise or should we interpret it that it does not apply because Jesus was teaching them to pray before the New Covenant ?
Label:
gospel,
grace,
pengajaran,
radical grace,
TEACHING
Selasa, 28 September 2010
DO NOT GIVE UP
zoe ministries
GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
2 Corinthians 2:14 (NKJV) 14 Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place.
Dear friends, thanks for your prayers. Vijaya and I came back from India [Kerala and Tamil Nadu] after 17 days of ministry. I thank God for His Grace poured out in every place where His Word was preached and taught. We thank God especially for Shepherds Arun and Preeti from Highlands Immanuel Fellowship and Ranjan and Shoba from New Life Fellowship for their hospitality. For Sam who took us around for the meetings and also interpreted for me. We thank God for the Varghese family [Kodanad] who took care of us for 2 days in their home. We thank God for Shepherds Ravi and Rhema [from Chennai] for their hospitality even though they were going through a difficult time. We thank God for Dr. Isaac [Thoduphula] for his hospitality and for opening his Counselling school for our meetings.
My friends, this story has encouraged me. I pray it will encourage you.
A modern day parable –Bamboo Story
One day I decided to quit …I quit my job, my relationship, my spirituality…I wanted to quit my life. I went to the woods to have one last talk with God. “God”, I said. “Can you give me one good reason not to quit?” His answer surprised me… “Look around”, He said. “Do you see the fern and the bamboo?” “Yes”, I replied. “When I planted the fern and the bamboo seeds, I took very good care of them. I gave them light. I gave them water. The fern quickly grew from the earth. Its brilliant green covered the floor. Yet nothing came from the bamboo seed. But I did not quit on the bamboo. In the second year the Fern grew more vibrant and plentiful. And again, nothing came from the bamboo seed. But I did not quit on the bamboo.” He said. “In year three there was still nothing from the bamboo seed. But I would not quit. In year four, again, there was nothing from the bamboo seed. I would not quit.” He said. “Then in the fifth year a tiny sprout emerged from the earth. Compared to the fern it was seemingly small and insignificant… But just 6 months later the bamboo rose to over 100 feet tall. It had spent the five years growing roots. Those roots made it strong and gave it what it needed to survive. I would not give any of my creations a challenge it could not handle.” He said to me. Did you know, my beloved child, that all this time you have been struggling, you have actually been growing roots?” “I would not quit on the bamboo. I will never quit on you.” “Do not compare yourself to others.” He said. “The bamboo had a different purpose than the fern. Yet they both make the forest beautiful. Your time will come”, God said to me. “You will rise high” “How high will the bamboo rise?” He asked in return. “As high as it can?” I questioned. “Yes” He said, “Give me glory by rising as high as you can.”
I hope these words can help you see that God will never give up on you. He will never give up on you. Never regret a day in your life. Good days give you happiness; bad days give you experiences; both are essential to life.
Luke 1:17 (NKJV) 17 He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, ‘to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,’ and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”
Vijaya and I have set aside Oct to Dec to bless Malaysia. Pray for open doors.
I need to speak to the people of God in Malaysia about
1] Do we know the times we live in?
2] How do we live during this time?
And for pastors and leaders who are willing to listen
1] God's work must be done in God's way
2] Development [what is missing?]
In every town and cities. If you are open please do contact us [0165318276]
Friends, we are a faith ministry and when you are lead by God to give towards our living and ministry, please direct it to
KRISHNASAMY A/L RAMASAMY
I/C Number -540303-07-5307
May Bank account number : 107125195025
Home Branch number 07125 -KAMPONG BHARU
Swift Code: MBBEMYKL
Or
KASIKORNBANK
Account number: 548-2-01969-4
Become a blessing to the nations by sending us to the nations to disciple the nations.
In His Majesty’s service
Christopher.K [Krishnasamy s/o Ramasamy] and Vijaya.K
27/9/2010
Label:
inspirational story,
ministry report,
news
Jumat, 03 September 2010
INDIAN TRIP
zoe ministries
GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Romans 10:14-15 (NKJV) 14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
Friends, thanks for your prayers while we were in Melbourne –Australia. Our ministry was well received in Reach Community Church and Inner City Church. We praise God for His favour and the favour of the Pastors Victor and Crystal Soo [Reach Community Church] and Roland and Karen Sathiaseelan [Inner City Church]. We thank God for our host Michael and Vivien Khor who made us feel at home and blessed us with 2 days of holiday by taking us around and blessing our 35th Anniversary and making it a memorable one. We thank God for Kelvin and Jamie who hosted us with dinner at their home. We thank God for many others who made this trip a memorable one with their presence. May God our Father bless them richly in Jesus Name.
Please pray for our coming India Ministry Trip [7/9/2010 to 24/9/2010]
7/9/2010 Arrival in Kochi
8/9/2010 Rest Day
9/9/2010 YWAM Kochi-10am to 1pm -Spiritual Leadership -God's Work must be done in God's Way
-Development
-Question and Answer time
HIF -Kochi -6.30pm to 8.30pm -Why we do not give up? [Part 1]
10/9/2010 YWAM -Kochi -10am to 1pm -Spiritual Leadership -Serving like Jesus
-Jesus & Titles
-Jesus & Traditions
HIF -Kochi -6.30pm to 8.30pm -Why we do not give up? [Part 2]
11/9/2010 HIF -Kochi -9.30am to 12.30am –Spiritual Leadership
12/9/2010 HIF -Kochi -Malayalam Service -10am to 12.30pm -Dilemma
HIF -Kodanad -4pm to 6pm -Dilemma
13/9/2010 HIF -Kodanad -6.30pm to 8.30pm -Marriage -Weeding and Covenant
14/9/2010 Thodupula -Spiritual Leadership -God's Work must be done in God's Way
-Development
Question and Answer time
15/9/2010 Thodupula -Spiritual Leadership -Serving like Jesus [John 13]
-Jesus & Titles
-Jesus & Traditions
16/9/2010 HIF –Kothamangalam
17/9/2010 HIF -Kothamangalam
17/9/2010 night -check into New Life Fellowship guest room.
18/9/2010 NLF -Kochi 10am to 4pm -Turning the hearts of the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers.
19/9/2010 NLF -Kochi 7am to 9am -Tamil -Understanding Godhead and family life
9am to 11am -Eng -Understanding Godhead and family life
11am to 1pm -Malayalam -Understanding Godhead and family life
19/9/2010 travel to Chennai 20/9 -23/9 fellowship with Ravi and Rhema [pioneering work in Chennai and former YWAM students
24/9/2010 Travel back to Penang -Malaysia
Friends, we are a faith ministry and when you are lead by God to give towards our living and ministry, please direct it to
KRISHNASAMY A/L RAMASAMY
I/C Number -540303-07-5307
May Bank account number : 107125195025
Home Branch number 07125 -KAMPONG BHARU
Swift Code: MBBEMYKL
Or
KASIKORNBANK
Account number: 548-2-01969-4
Become a blessing to the nations by sending us to the nations to disciple the nations.
In His Majesty’s service
Christopher.K [Krishnasamy s/o Ramasamy] and Vijaya.K
1/9/2010
Senin, 02 Agustus 2010
Beware of leaders who are willing to bend the truth in their quest for popularity, power, and pleasure
zoe ministries
GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Dear friends, I do want to share a little bit about false ministers during this dangerous time we live in. This warning is directed against false ministers whose messages are not from God, but lies intended to win popularity by saying whatever made the people happy. Their messages comforted people into a false sense of security, making not only Ezekiel [in the OT] but today’s true ministers of God’s work more difficult.
Beware of leaders who are willing to bend the truth in their quest for popularity, power, and pleasure.
Please read carefully. Do not rush through.
The false representatives of God during Ezekiel’s time exhibited at least ten negative characteristics.
First, they spoke out of their own will, not God’s will.
Ezekiel 13:1-3 (NKJV) And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who prophesy, and say to those who prophesy out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of the Lord!’ ” 3 Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the foolish prophets, who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!
Ezekiel 13:17 (NKJV) 17 “Likewise, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people, who prophesy out of their own heart; prophesy against them,
Second, they made the people a victim instead of performing a ministry for them. They scavenged among ruined lives for personal gain and self-indulgence.
Ezekiel 13:4 (NKJV) 4 O Israel, your prophets are like foxes in the deserts.
Third, they had no crisis ministry. They could not strengthen the breaks in the walls (i.e., people or nations) or fortify broken lives.
Ezekiel 13:5 (NKJV) 5 You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the Lord.
Fourth, they claimed their revelations were divine to deceive their followers and easily deceived others because they were deceived themselves.
Ezekiel 13:6-7 (NKJV) 6 They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord!’ But the Lord has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. 7 Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The Lord says,’ but I have not spoken.”
Fifth, they failed to stand against sin and declared an empty message without truth.
Ezekiel 13:6-9 (NKJV) 6 They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord!’ But the Lord has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. 7 Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The Lord says,’ but I have not spoken.” 8 Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you,” says the Lord God. 9 “My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God.
Sixth, they preached a message of peace, prosperity, and safety in the face of imminent judgment because they failed to relate the consequences of sin.
Ezekiel 13:10-12 (NKJV) 10 “Because, indeed, because they have seduced My people, saying, ‘Peace!’ when there is no peace—and one builds a wall, and they plaster it with untempered mortar— 11 say to those who plaster it with untempered mortar, that it will fall. There will be flooding rain, and you, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall tear it down. 12 Surely, when the wall has fallen, will it not be said to you, ‘Where is the mortar with which you plastered it?’ ”
Seventh, their ministry provoked the wrath of God and invited his judgment.
Ezekiel 13:13-16 (NKJV) 13 Therefore thus says the Lord God: “I will cause a stormy wind to break forth in My fury; and there shall be a flooding rain in My anger, and great hailstones in fury to consume it. 14 So I will break down the wall you have plastered with untempered mortar, and bring it down to the ground, so that its foundation will be uncovered; it will fall, and you shall be consumed in the midst of it. Then you shall know that I am the Lord. 15 “Thus will I accomplish My wrath on the wall and on those who have plastered it with untempered mortar; and I will say to you, ‘The wall is no more, nor those who plastered it, 16 that is, the prophets of Israel who prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and who see visions of peace for her when there is no peace,’ ” says the Lord God.
Eighth, they often used false methods and occult practices to legitimize their work and control their victims.
Ezekiel 13:17-21 (NKJV) 17 “Likewise, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people, who prophesy out of their own heart; prophesy against them, 18 and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the women who sew magic charms on their sleeves and make veils for the heads of people of every height to hunt souls! Will you hunt the souls of My people, and keep yourselves alive? 19 And will you profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live, by your lying to My people who listen to lies?” 20 ‘Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I am against your magic charms by which you hunt souls there like birds. I will tear them from your arms, and let the souls go, the souls you hunt like birds. 21 I will also tear off your veils and deliver My people out of your hand, and they shall no longer be as prey in your hand. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.
Ninth, they encouraged iniquity by word and personal example.
Ezekiel 13:22-23 (NKJV) 22 “Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life. 23 Therefore you shall no longer envision futility nor practice divination; for I will deliver My people out of your hand, and you shall know that I am the Lord.” ’ ”
Tenth, they set up the worst idols, their own self-will (14:1–7).
Ezekiel 14:1-7 (NKJV) Now some of the elders of Israel came to me and sat before me. 2 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 3 “Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their hearts, and put before them that which causes them to stumble into iniquity. Should I let Myself be inquired of at all by them? 4 “Therefore speak to them, and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Everyone of the house of Israel who sets up his idols in his heart, and puts before him what causes him to stumble into iniquity, and then comes to the prophet, I the Lord will answer him who comes, according to the multitude of his idols, 5 that I may seize the house of Israel by their heart, because they are all estranged from Me by their idols.” ’ 6 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Repent, turn away from your idols, and turn your faces away from all your abominations. 7 For anyone of the house of Israel, or of the strangers who dwell in Israel, who separates himself from Me and sets up his idols in his heart and puts before him what causes him to stumble into iniquity, then comes to a prophet to inquire of him concerning Me, I the Lord will answer him by Myself.
Please pray for Vijaya and me, that we will continue to stay close with the one who called us and chose us and fulfill HIS PURPOSE. That we will be HIS Mouth Piece and speak forth His Truth boldly and with His Love.
Ephesians 6:18-19 (NKJV) 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints— 19 and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Malaysia
5/8/2010 Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim- Kedah
8/8/2010 Trinity Bible Church -Penang
29/8/2010 Emma Faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
Singapore
31/7/2010 An Afternoon with Christopher.K in Open Hand Fellowship on Spiritual Leadership
1/8/2010 Open Hand Christian Fellowship
Australia –August [pray for more doors to open] 12/8 to 25/8/2010
12/8 AM-Pastors Prayer Meeting
13/8 PM –Reach Community Church –Melbourne
14/8 PM -8th Anniversary of Reach Community Church
15/8 AM –Sunday Morning Service–Reach Community Church –Melbourne
21/8 AM- Men’s Breakfast Meeting –Reach Community Church –Melbourne
22/8 AM-Assembly [name of church TBC later]
India –Kerala / Tamil Nadu –September 7th to 24th.
11/9 to 16/9 Highlands Immanuel Fellowship -Kochi
18/9 10am to 4pm New Life Fellowship -Kochi
19/9 7am Tamil –New Life fellowship -Kochi
9am English –New Life Fellowship –Kochi
11am Malayalam –New Life Fellowship -Kochi
20/9 to 24/9 Chennai –Tamil Nadu
Philippines [28/10 to 4/11]
Friends, we are a faith ministry and when you are lead by God to give towards our living and ministry, please direct it to
KRISHNASAMY A/L RAMASAMY
I/C Number -540303-07-5307
May Bank account number : 107125195025
Home Branch number 07125 -KAMPONG BHARU
Swift Code: MBBEMYKL
Or
KASIKORNBANK
Account number: 548-2-01969-4
Become a blessing to the nations by sending us to the nations to disciple the nations.
In His Majesty’s service
Christopher.K [Krishnasamy s/o Ramasamy] and Vijaya.K
29/7/2010
Selasa, 06 Juli 2010
Testimony from Open Hand Christian Fellowship
Open Hand Christian Fellowship
Blk 209, New Upper Changi Road, #04-645, Singapore 460209
Pastor Christopher Krishnasamy and his wife Vijaya have ministered in our church and have also conducted a 4-day seminar on “Turning the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers. Mal 4:6” from 13th to 16th June 2010. It was a fruitful time of bringing our church members to a place of oneness and reconciliation.
Pastor Christopher is very much a father figure and many of our church members found him approachable and caring. Sister Vijaya is a wonderful help-mate for his ministry. He is light-hearted and jovial when not in the pulpit. He is very focused on his subject when teaching and he knows his material well.
I believe he also has the gift of mentoring and coming along-side pastors and leaders. His in-depth knowledge and understanding of those in the front line of church life can be seen in his ability to give godly counsel. It is probably because of his many years of experience in the ministry and vast interaction with different denominations.
I am delighted to know him and would not hesitate to recommend him for your fellowship or church so that you may benefit from his talents and spiritual giftings.
Pastor Arthur Phua
Senior Pastor
Open Hand Christian Fellowship, Singapore
Minggu, 27 Juni 2010
PRAYER NEED
zoe ministries
GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Revelation 7:9 (NKJV) 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
FloydMclung, Perspectives on the World Christian Movement (William Carey Library, 1999)
"I know when apostolic passion has died in my heart. It happens when I don't spend my quiet time dreaming of the time when Jesus will be worshiped in languages that aren't yet heard in heaven. I know it's missing from my life when I sing about heaven, but live as if earth is my home. Apostolic passion is dead in my heart when I dream more about sports, toys, places to go, and people to see, than I do about the nations worshiping Jesus."
Friends, we pray that as an apostolic generation we will not lose sight of Revelation 7:9. That is the “dream” of the Father in heaven and should be the dream of every child of God. We need that same apostolic passion that was in the Son of God to be in us and move us to finish this work with excellence. We need to join our hearts, hands and share the resources that God has released to finish HIS WORK. Let us pray together against this empire building spirit [anti-Christ spirit that is at work within the church]. Much of the resources are wasted in “dead stones”. We should be investing our resources in “living stones” [The people of God and those who are not yet]. We should be using the resources to help send workers to the “field”.
I thank you for praying for us as we served the local churches in Sabah and Singapore from 4/6 to 16/6/2010. Below is the testimony send by Pastor Gideon from Rhema Blessed Church from Keningau, Sabah.
To Ptr. Christopher,
First I want to thank God for allowing you to come here in Keningau. I
believe this is not the will of man but this is His divine plan for you.
For two days and two nights you spoke about the heart of the Father to His
children; The heart of the children to His Father.
You shared about what God wants, it’s not having big building but having
the temple of God (Holy Spirit) in us (People).
You shared about the reason why Jesus came to the world; His priority is
to preach salvation to everyone. Jesus encourages us as a Servant of God
to let the people know about Him (Jesus). Not about an organization nor
the Church building but the Kingdom of God. You also discuss about How we
can become a faithful Servant of The Most High God. I saw in you the
manifestation of a humble Spirit, has fire in your heart. The teaching
that we heard from you is very powerful and uplifting.
May The Lord’s presence continue to be seen in you, your family and your
ministry.
Thank you,
From Pr. Gedion
RBC Keningau
Update of coming ministries.
Thailand [28/6 to 3/7] Ministry and time of Rest -Phuket
Malaysia
24/6/2010 Thursday Service -Ministry at Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim –Kedah
27/6/2010 Sunday Service –Emma faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
11/7/2010 Emma Faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
15/7/2010 Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim –Kedah
25/7/2010 Reservoir Garden Baptist Church -Penang
5/8/2010 Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim- Kedah
8/8/2010 Trinity Bible Church -Penang
29/8/2010 Emma Faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
Singapore
31/7/2010 An Afternoon with Christopher.K in Open Hand Fellowship on Spiritual Leadership
1/8/2010 Open Hand Fellowship
Australia –August [pray for more doors to open] 12/8 to 25/8/2010
13/8 PM –Reach Community Church –Melbourne
14/8 AM- Men’s Breakfast Meeting –Reach Community Church –Melbourne
15/8 AM –Sunday Morning Service–Reach Community Church –Melbourne
India –Kerala / Tamil Nadu –September 7th to 25th.
11/9 to 16/9 Highlands Immanuel Fellowship -Kochi
18/9 10am to 4pm New Life Fellowship -Kochi
19/9 7am Tamil –New Life fellowship -Kochi
9am English –New Life Fellowship –Kochi
11am Malayalam –New Life Fellowship -Kochi
20/9 to 24/9 Chennai –Tamil Nadu
Friends, we are a faith ministry and when you are lead by God to give towards our living and ministry, please direct it to
KRISHNASAMY A/L RAMASAMY
I/C Number -540303-07-5307
May Bank account number : 107125195025
Home Branch number 07125 -KAMPONG BHARU
Swift Code: MBBEMYKL
Or
KASIKORNBANK
Account number: 548-2-01969-4
Become a blessing to the nations by sending us to the nations to disciple the nations.
In His Majesty’s service
Christopher.K [Krishnasamy s/o Ramasamy] and Vijaya.K
26/6/2010
Kamis, 03 Juni 2010
PRAYER NEED
zoe ministries
GL Garden 01-21-02, Solok Paya Terubong 8, 11060 Penang, Malaysia
House Phone: 604-8277554 Hand Phone: 60165318276.
Email: cvs3zoe@yahoo.com
Ephesians 4:11-12 (NKJV) 11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Friends, please pray for us that the Word of the Lord may continue to run swiftly and be glorified.
2 Thessalonians 3:1 (NKJV) Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may run swiftly and be glorified, just as it is with you,
We came back after ministering in Surabaya. It was a fruitful and satisfying trip. Vijaya and I were working with the church that was meeting in Onggo’s home.
John 4:34 (NKJV) 34 Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work.
This is what Onggo’s community wrote:
“You are not as famous as other speakers
Not so charismatic as others too
But surely we know and recognise you
As a Father’s sent to mould us
Your simplicity and spirit
That inspire us to do more in God
Thank you
Our prayer our God in the name of Jesus
Will bless you abundantly”
We who love you both..
The Church in Onggo’s house
We also want to thank God for a new door of opportunity that has been open in Johore [Batu Pahat and Kluang]. It was a privilege and joy knowing Pastor Sheng and Danny Lim from Harvest Community. Ministered there on 29/5 and 30/5/2010.
Update of coming ministries.
Malaysia
3/6 to 12/6 Kota Kinabalu and Keningau –Sabah
4/6 Rhema Blessed Church -Penampang –Sabah
5/6 Rhema Blessed Church –Kota Kinabalu –Sabah
6/6 Rhema Blessed Church –Kota Kinabalu –Sabah
7/6 to 9/6 Rhema Blessed Church –Keningau –Sabah
10/6 to 11/6 Rhema Blessed Church –whole day teaching and training
18/6 to 20/6 Air Itam Baptist Centre
24/6/2010 Thursday Service -Ministry at Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim –Kedah
27/6/2010 Sunday Service –Emma faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
11/7/2010 Emma Faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
15/7/2010 Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim –Kedah
25/7/2010 Reservoir Garden Baptist Church -Penang
5/8/2010 Emmanuel Word Centre –Kulim- Kedah
29/8/2010 Emma Faith Nurturing Centre –Penang
Singapore
13/6 AM Going Church
13/6 PM Open Hand Christian Fellowship
14/6 to 16/6 Open Hand Christian Fellowship Church Camp
Australia –August [pray for more doors to open] 12/8 to 25/8/2010
13/8 PM –Reach Community Church –Melbourne
14/8 AM- Men’s Breakfast Meeting –Reach Community Church –Melbourne
15/8 AM –Sunday Morning Service–Reach Community Church –Melbourne
India –Kerala / Tamil Nadu –September
Friends, we are a faith ministry and when you are lead by God to give towards our living and ministry, please direct it to
KRISHNASAMY A/L RAMASAMY
I/C Number -540303-07-5307
May Bank account number : 107125195025
Home Branch number 07125 -KAMPONG BHARU
Swift Code: MBBEMYKL
Or
KASIKORNBANK
Account number: 548-2-01969-4
Become a blessing to the nations by sending us to the nations to disciple the nations.
In His Majesty’s service
Christopher.K [Krishnasamy s/o Ramasamy] and Vijaya.K
2/6/2010
Senin, 17 Mei 2010
Apostle Paul: Rejected
Apostle Paul: Rejected
By Rowland Croucher and others ⋅ May 1, 2010
Based on Bill Britton’s classic; modified and expanded by Dean VanDruff.
MYSTERY BABYLON DENOMINATION
FOREIGN MISSIONS BOARD
To: Rev. Saul Paul
First Christian Church
Antioch, Syria
Dear Mr. Paul:
I have your application for missionary appointment before me, and will be as frank as possible concerning your qualifications as a foreign missionary. We have to be very careful in choosing our missionaries, and our Missions Board has reviewed your case thoroughly. We have decided that it would be unwise to send you to the foreign field for the following reasons:
It has come to our attention that you are doing secular work on the side. We do not feel that making tents and full time ministry go together very well. [1Th 2:9] It seems that you do not have enough experience in trusting the Lord for your income. You should make up your mind whether you want to preach or continue your profession.
Your previous actions have been very rash and unseemly for a minister. We learned that in a public meeting you opposed Dr. Simon Peter, an esteemed minister with a high reputation. [Ga 2:11-14] We also hear that you refused to compromise with other ministers such that a special council meeting had to be called in Jerusalem to prevent a serious split in the churches. [Ac 15:1-30] We frown on putting ideology before people. For your own good, I am enclosing a copy of Daius’ Carnegus book on “How to Win Jews and Influence Greeks.” [Ga 1:10, 1Th 2:4-6]
You have conflicted with mature Jewish brethren in nearly every city you have visited who simply want to encourage the converted Pagans to be properly circumcised. Mr. Paul, you must know that these men are our most learned sages with a deep sense of the roots and history of our faith. As well, and more importantly, these men control the synagogues you could be ministering in if you would simply tone down your dialog into a more friendly and respectful exchange. [Gal 5:2-12]
In checking back, we discovered your Christian education consisted of a three year course in Arabia. [Ga 1:15-20] We find that the Arabian school has not been approved by our accreditation board.
Further, you admit to being an unskilled public speaker. [2Co 10:10, 11:6] Paul, surely you must know that people expect fine elocution from men of God, and that as a denomination we stand for the highest levels of excellence in the pulpit. Yet instead of going to much-needed oratory classes you spend your time making tents instead. From your correspondence, you also appear to be spending a considerable amount of time writing letters to insignificant little “churches” that meet in homes. [Ac 28:3-6] Honestly now; do you really think that such misguided activities are what will lead to your success in the world of religion? We strongly suggest that you put down your tools and set aside your pen, and instead practice hand gestures, facial expressions, and voice modulation in front of a mirror for several hours a day until you come up to par.
It has come to our attention that you often emphasize “the power of God” and “the gifts of the Spirit.” [1Co 2:3-5, 12:1-7] Also that you speak in tongues a great deal. [1Co 14:18] Surely you realize that such as this only drives off the better class of people, and attracts only the riff-raff. It would be better to tone down those more sensational forms of worship. You sound as though you are “off the deep end.” [1Co 3:18]
It has been proven to our satisfaction that you had hands laid on you at Antioch with prophecy going forth, [Ac 13:1-3] with none of the Apostles or Headquarters brethren present to conduct this ordination service in the prescribed manner.
We see here that you have a jail record in several places. [2Co 11:23-27] If this is true, it puts you in a bad light, for our denomination has always stood for a high standard of civic responsibility. I fear it would damage our reputation to have someone representing us that had served time in jails and prisons. Frankly, Mr. Paul, we seriously doubt you could have been innocent and the judge wrong in so many cases. It just doesn’t look right.
It seems that you are a troublemaker, Mr. Paul. Several business men of Ephesus have written us that you were the cause of severe loss of business to them and stirred up a mob protest. You must learn to cultivate the friendship and influence of men and groups such as these. [Ac 16:16-22]
We also have some details of a shameful “over the wall in a basket” episode at Damascus, [2Co 11:30-33] plus a stoning at Lystra, and several other violent actions taken against your ministry. [2Ti 3:11] Haven’t you ever suspected that conciliatory behavior and gentler words might gain you more friends?
We have learned through channels that following some trouble with a preacher on the island of Cyprus, you began to allow yourself to be known by the Gentile pronunciation of your name rather than the proper Hebrew. [Ac 13:4-11] Yet another conflict, and then a name change. This does not seem to us to be conduct becoming to the ministry.
You admitted in your application that in the past you neglected such needy fields as Bithynia, just because “the Spirit didn’t lead that way,” and that you undertook a hazardous journey on the strength of a dream you had at Troas. [Ac 16:6-10] Mr. Paul, surely you don’t expect us to go along with such flimsy and fantastic excuses for your seemingly purposeless wanderings.
Many times you did not stay long enough, in our opinion, to get a church properly established. You left your converts many times without even a pastor to guide them, and without setting the church in order in some good hierarchical denomination. [Ts 1:5]
We hear also from Troas that you preach too long, one sermon lasting almost twenty-four hours, even to the extent that a young man fell asleep and was seriously injured. [Ac 20:7-12] We understand that you claim to have restored his life and raised him from the dead by falling on him and embracing him. What nonsense! We need practical men in the ministry, Mr. Paul, not high strung emotional radicals. Our advice is for you to shorten your sermons considerably. We find that about twenty minutes is the longest a minister can hold the attention of his audience these days. Our motto is “Stand up, speak up, and shut up.”
It is reported from your home church that you could not get along with your fellow ministers; that John Mark–a commendable young man and nephew of one of our highest leaders–had to leave your party in the middle of a journey; and that you had a sharp quarrel with gentle, good natured Barnabas. [Ac 15:36-40] Now these men are well thought of in Jerusalem and we wonder why you are always having trouble with your fellow workers?
We have notarized affidavits from four very popular and influential preachers: Diotrephes, Demas, Hymenaeus, and Alexander; to the effect that it is impossible for them to cooperate with either you or your program. [1Ti 1:20]
From what we hear, you seem to think that you have some direct sanction from on-high, boasting about your revelations and that God has chosen you to reveal some “Mystery”. [Ep 3:3-4] Can’t you realize that any truth that is to be revealed would come through Headquarters to the recognized, established brethren, and that after it had been checked by our Procedure and Doctrine Committee that we would distribute it on to the field workers?
Finally, we hear that you claim to be an Apostle. We know nothing of this being passed upon by the proper authoritative channels and wonder how you could back that claim up, when the last Apostle was voted into office right here in Jerusalem. [Ac 1:26] Now that our denomination is firmly established, why do you imagine there would be any need for God to continue the Apostolic gifting?
As you see, Mr. Paul, we feel definitely after close scrutiny of your case, that you are undoubtedly the most unqualified applicant we have ever seen, and my advice for you is to find a church where you can work in harmony, and use your past education as perhaps a Sunday School teacher.
I hope I have prevented you from making a terrible mistake in your life.
Most sincerely yours,
J. Flavios Fluphehead, SECY
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